On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:16:28 GMT Rotan <[log in to unmask]> said: >Eric, might I suggest that you update listserv so that if it gets a >request for the old version of "listname LIST", that it also *checks* >the old version *if* the user's ID is not found in the new "soup" >version... :-) Sorry, but no. The system is designed so that vital data isn't lost forever when you screw up, it is not designed to provide optimal recovery time without local assistance for all possible types of errors. Your problem isn't that you were not allowed to retrieve the old list: if you had been sent a copy, you would still not be able to update the main list because you have removed your ownership. Other ways of shooting yourself in the foot include setting the list owner to some misspelled account, or changing the password to something you forgot. It seems normal to have to resort to local assistance for this kind of errors. For the same reason that nobody would take an operating system allowing the use of your old login password for up to 1h after you change it seriously, I am not going to allow old passwords/owners to keep running the list for a time window long enough to avoid having to call local staff for assistance. In any case, you should have directed your request to Turgut and not me. Eric