The renewal verification process is fired up once a week, because it may take quite a lot of time to complete and it doesn't really matter if you are asked to renew 363 or 369 days after you subscribed. So things never happen "instantly", but should happen within one week. Some servers have a locally edited WAKEPARM FILE and may never run this process at all, if the postmaster decided it was not needed (for instance because he runs 10 lists totalling 89273 subscribers and none of them requires renewal). The reference date is internally present in the list regardless of the value of the "Renewal=" keyword, but tends to get reset when subscribers show some "activity". The purpose of the renewal function is to take care of dead or inactive accounts, and not of people who are fully aware of the fact that they are subscribed, so I chose to avoid bothering active subscribers as much as possible. Eric