This thread seems to have lots of life left in it... So, where should we take it? "How XYZ-net can survive" is certainly not the stated topic of this list. Is there a proper home? If not, I'll create a new list on JHUVM. But please, let's find a more appropriate forum. -jj PS - The only suggestion I've seen along this line was to take the discussion to NODMGT-L, which I think is equally inappropriate. Perhaps FUTURE-L is the best place? I don't know, since I'm not a member of that list.