To prevent potential bugs from causing loops, LISTSERV generally refuses to process "unexpected" files from itself. That is, when LISTSERV sends a file to itself with intent to later process it, it sets a flag in the file descriptor and, if the flag is not present, it later refuses to process the file. Such files can be created even without bugs if the server is abruptly stopped while it was preparing a file for some user. If you GIVE a file to LISTSERV or to a list, this is not something expected and the file is rejected. However you should be able to have the file in question *mailed* to the list, by specifying F=MAIL on the AFD command. Eric