It might be helpful for listowners to cultivate a cadre of users who are known to be reliable to start counterpostings when things seem to be getting out of hand. By counterpostings I mean things which are of interest to the list which will grab everyones attention away from the nasty stuff and refocus it. It won't always work, but it can save you from getting flamed as a censor of free expression. In the final extremity you have to do what you think right as list owner. The idea of counterposting is not mine. I picked it up form another list (NETTRAIN if I remember correctly). Douglas Winship Austin, Texas [log in to unmask]