What would help me most, I think, is if those who post messages to the effect that all you have to do to solve problem x is send a message about it would give the full address and full syntax of whatever it is they are talking about. I often see things that appear to be related to things I *might* find useful but don't find enough info to search them out for myself to see. I am reluctant to query, query, query. I can read and follow directions and *then* query if I don't understand. I try to be a responsible user and not bug my systems people and people like you until I have exhausted my own resources. Macey Taylor [log in to unmask] U of AZ