On Mon, 18 Jan 1993 10:59:55 CST David E Boyes said: >... >However, to do anything really useful, you need Hypercard II, >which is a extra cost product. Of couse, most Mac users cough up >the extra bucks, but it's not universal. I should have been more explicit. As far as I know, HyperCard II is the only current version around nowadays. The last few Macs we acquired, which had System 7 preinstalled on their hard disks, also came with a HyperCard II player, both preinstalled on the HD, as well as in diskette form. The National Science Foundation's Internet Tour stack (which I mentioned in my previous letter) is in HyperCard II format, and runs flawlessly on any newer Mac. >Hypercard is also extremely weak when it comes to communications >stuff -- especially when you have to handle full-screen >applications. MacWorkstation might be a possiblity, in tandem >with a CMS application that reduced the problem to parsing a >series of line-mode text commands... Its not clear to me whether Eric's idea was just to have a standalone "Listserv use tutorial" or a full fledged communications package. I agree that HyperCard, being an interpreter-based application, cannot cope with real-time communications, especially with a 3270 protocol, unless it was running on one of the big Quadras... ;) On the PC world, a tutorial could be done using IBM's HyperCard clone ( ;) I guess my antiMeSsyDOS bias is showing...) o a communications setup could be based on the Clarkson TN3270 emulator, which uses packet drivers. JMC P.S. 'nother plug for NSF's Internet Tour: it also comes with an auxilliary stack, where you can incorporate your local setup, so the whole picture, local & netwide, is presented in a seamless fashion to the user.