The PCBUILD list is academic only if you have a pretty practical EE dept. But the purpose of the list (lowering the cost of PCs and enhancing their capabilities) is full of relevance to most academic institutions. So I would call it an academic list, even tho the subject matter is fairly practical and not too theoretical. Dave Gomberg GOMBERG@UCSFVM Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU fax-> 7797 Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941 voice-> (415)731-7793