That's because mainframes are SERVERS and you're using them without a client. The mainframe can't pop up menus on your PC, so it doesn't. Anyway the EARN office is writing a clickecticlick LISTSERV interface for the PC, I don't know when it's going to be available but it's being developed right now. I've tried very hard to get someone to write one for the Mac, but it's apparently so difficult to do that nobody wants to volunteer (the difficulty is of course not in the making of the nice little boxes, but in actually sending the commands). Eric