You have just discovered that LISTSERV builds the 3 files from LISTALL REFCARD, so that I don't have to change the same information 3 times, and posted a confidential password to a public list (I deleted it from the log). I told you three times in private that your server has the latest version of the REFCARDs and that everything will be all right if you just order the files. So why don't you just try a GET command? Why post this question to a list when I have already answered it in private, do you not believe me? Eric