Tasos says the following item apparently didn't make it to LSTSRV-L. I haven't seen it there either. In the interest of the whole MLM community, I felt it to be a good idea to forward this item with announcements from Tasos to some MLM-related lists. Please see this as FYI. I hope to make this my last posting on the subject. Regards. $$\ --------------------(fwd)--------------------- On Sat, 17 Jul 1993 18:49:58 -0400 Anastasios Kotsikonas said: >I would like to address the threats that appeared recently on lstsrv-l and >forwarded to this list, and make some announcements. My reply of last Thursday >on this issue to this list seems to have gone to /dev/null due to local mail >configuration problems. Also a separate message had been sent from >[log in to unmask] (where mail does go out) on late Thursday night (after >discovering the local problems) to lstsrv-l, but apparently never got posted!! >I wonder why. >Briefly, Mr. Thomas' claims about our help files are plain false. You only >need to look in your copies of the help files to see that the wording he is >complaining about was long changed. We sure all now know we had changed the >name of the system as well -- Mr. Thomas refuses to recognize even that. In >addition, the comments in the original help file were placed there after HIS >request to clarify things, he did not agree with them, we changed them but he >never cared to review the new ones; then he gets on the net making the false >claims we have seen. >At this point I will let you be the judge. As far as I am concerned it is >my duty to protect myself and you from anybody's menacing threats, however >unfounded as they may seem. For the time being you should not feel uneasy >about the system raising confusion: the X-Listserver-Version: and Version: >header lines adequately protect you as identifiers of the system. Users >who get confused simply have not simply looked at them, and they place >themselves in the same situation as "- But officer I did not see the No Parking >sign. - It is there and is your duty to look for it." >This flaming war will end; I have no more desire to be forwarded Mr. Thomas' >nonsense. It is true I asked for it; my efforts to bring a rather-common >interface to users have failed. I have realized there is very little common >sense out there. >The only solution is to remove the famous "listserv" string from the entire >system. Coming this Monday, I will rename the system to UNIX ListProcessor >(sounds like a food processor, doesn't it). I will suggest that people use >the "listproc" alias instead of "listserver" or whatever have you, but as >before you are all free to choose your own. Of course you may still use >the "listserver" alias as a pointer to "listproc", but don't advertise it. >The version will be marked 6.0a and there will be an upgrade script from all >current versions (6.0, 5.5, etc). This script will also tell you to use the >env var ULISTPROC_UMASK instead of ULISTSERVER_UMASK, and ulistproc as the >internet service instead of ulistserv. Some source files will also be renamed. >I would like to rename this mailing list to unix-listproc also. My intention >is to remove all hooks so as to silence as many big mouths as possible. >Version 6.0a will also contain all bug fixes made since April 1 (some not >posted), as well as the concurrent server as discussed last week -- tested >and well-functioning :-). To remove all liability on your part I would >strongly suggest you do the upgrade, but by no means are you required to do >so. >The whole situation does not certainly strike anyone as professional, and I >take full responsibility for it. I forward my sincerest apologies to all of >you and your users for the inconvinience, and I am sure this is the last we >ever heard of this subject. >Feel free to forward these announcements to listsrv-l -- I seem to be refused >access. >And one last note: I WILL trademark all names used by the new system. Other >developers however WILL be allowed to use them WITHOUT my consent; I simply do >not want someone else making this an issue again. >Sincerely, >Tasos >PS: Scott (tuc) I will log in to stormking once the new system is installed >to make some changes so that requests for unix-listserv are handled properly. >I will be in telephone contact also.