In article <[log in to unmask]> Nancy ([log in to unmask]) wrote: : This posting has gone out on the user services, charge back and the : academic software development groups also. It appears that whoever posted it - via usenet, since it had an INN-style message-ID - started at bit.admin and started working up through the bit.* groups carried at his site (I saw it in bit.admin, bit.general, bit.listserv. aix-l, at the very minimum). I sent him - and root at his site - a request that he immediately stop sending this to newsgroups that it's not applicable to (are there any ? alt.sex.wanted ? alt.personals.ads ? alt.dcom.telecom ?). This was inappropriate behavior for any list, not just cumrec-l. That number, or one like it, was discussed on comp.dcom.telecom several weeks ago. Having run PSU NetNews and used it to gateway articles between news and mail, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong, Eric) (-: that the 'Sender:' header or the 'From:' header can be a subscriber to the list and generate a match. Anything gatewayed from usenet to a mailing list will have a 'Sender:' of <netnews-server-id>@<gateway-host> - ie [log in to unmask] edu.... and any article gatewayed from the mailing list into usenet will be mailed to <netnews-server-id>@<gateway-host>, so it has to be subscribed to the list. Hence, anything coming through a usenet->list gateway using PSU NetNews and Revised Listserv is automatically considered acceptable for posting, even if the list is send=private. One possibility if you want to still allow the articles to be read on usenet, but you want usenet-generated postings to be forwarded for your personal attention, is to ask that the list be converted to a moderated list on the usenet end, with the list-owner as the moderator. It's not necessary to moderate the mailing list itself. Jim McIntosh ([log in to unmask]) can help you with this. The other alternative is to ask Jim to remove the gateway completely, which is your option as a list-owner. Be aware that for some lists, this will result in a BIG increase in subscriptions and mail delivery load, because more sites are adding the bit.* hierarchy to their news subscriptions. -- Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] <internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug Geek (ca. 1942): a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usu. includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake - Websters.