Thanks for the info - I'm not sure which would be better at the moment. Let me clarify exactly what the command flow is that is causing the confusion here then I'll get back to you. First approximation appears to be that original sub request went to list-owner directly, so that 'as you sent sub request' implied send ok <code> to list-owner ( to at least one group of people ) It might be easier for me to create a canned message for the list-owner to send out instead of having him/her do a 'for < > sub listname subscriber' command. ( at least I THINK that might be what is happening ... ) Obviously, I need to get accurate picture of the problem .... thanks again, mike