I understand the problem, and have had it myself on several lists. Since I train many people on using LISTSERV and related list managers they run across on the nets, I tell them to NEVER use the TELL command to sign up to a list. Whether Bitnet lives or dies, the TELL command is counterproductive to teach people, at least as regards to using it to sign up for lists. Mailing to LISTSERV@somewhere will always work, and the format works for mailserv, listserv(clones), listname-request@smoeplace, and other variants they may run across. Of course the hardest person to teach this to has been me, since my habits have been ingrained for longer than most of those I teach. o-) dan Dan Lester Internet: [log in to unmask] Network Information Coordinator Bitnet: ALILESTE@IDBSU Boise State University Library Boise, Idaho 83725 In the kingdom of the blind, the 208-385-1235 one-eyed man is king. Erasmus. 1523