After all the compolaints I had to handle because I have the confirm feature set on GOPHERN, I thought my task would be so much easier this time around but it's not :-( I have already gotten over 200 mail bounces and am busily QUIET DELeting folks. I had expected that since confirm was set and LISTSERV was able to communicate with each of these folks at least twice, I would not have to deal with many 'unknown hosts' bounced mail ('unknown user' I can understand, folks sign up then no longer exist). This is simply a word of advice from an 'expert' (an 'expert' is someone who has already made the mistakes). You may set the confirm option, but you'll still have to deal with bounced mail. Jim "why did I agree to do this again" Gerland...