From: Paul Robinson <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA ----- > > In article <[log in to unmask]>, > > Scott Ophof <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Talk about a nice loop... :-( > > Seems to result in a msg being posted to all PC-REXX > > subscribers about every 5 minutes or so. The address > > <[log in to unmask]> does not respond; it bounces as "does > > not exist" or something to that effect. This repeated posting > > has been going on since early Saturday at least. Well, what is happening is that the mailer on MCI sends messages back to the 'Reply-To: ' address, telling it that the address it was sent to is wrong, usually because the recpient has discontinued their account without telling the system about it. The answer is to QUIET SERVE OFF the mail server so that it will not post its messages to the list. This would eliminate the problem as far as that; then remove whoever didn't sign off; this will get rid of the bounces. > I would encourage you to remove all mcimail.com users from any > mailing list, with an explanatory note to the user. Refuse any > mailing list additions mcimail.com until they fix their gateway. > It seems the only recourse is social pressure. (After reasonable > attmpts to contact the person in charge) Now wait just a goddamn minute here! This is a stupid and wrongheaded idea; that says that because the gateway works wrong, we're going to punish everyone who is on MCI Mail because of the people who drop accounts without having the courtesy of doing a SIGNOFF * (NETWIDE. This is a cruel and vicious attitude, on the order of cutting off someone's head to cure lip cancer. And this also means the list owner is supposed to police the mailing list and after someone spends money to issue a SUBSCRIBE request, then is accepted, then the list owner tells them that they are going to be removed as prejudice against the site they use. Not because they are doing anything wrong, or have caused problems to the list, but because the site they are on someday MIGHT have a problem? If you have a problem, complain to [log in to unmask]; do not punish the readers or potential readers of a list because of the sins of the operator of the site. Would you like it if someone decided because they don't like Penn State's Football team, to deny access to any list at Penn State? It's almost the same thing; the users are being punished for something they have no control over. --- Note: All mail is read/responded every day. If a message is sent to this account, and you expect a reply, if one is not received within 24 hours, resend your message; some systems do not send mail to MCI Mail correctly. Paul Robinson - [log in to unmask] Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush <[log in to unmask]> ----- The following Automatic Fortune Cookie was selected only for this message: NEWS FLASH!! Today the East German pole-vault champion became the West German pole-vault champion.