I presume you already got a hand, but just in case: This is a listserv list so the way to get on or off is to send the right message (in the body, not the Subject:) of email to LISTSERV (notice no E, only 8 characters) at the same site as the mailing list address. To get on a list, use: SUBSCRIBE list-name Your Own Name Example: subscribe sorehand Alex Pashensky To get off a listserv list, use: SIGNOFF list-name Example: signoff sorehand Watch out! Since listserv gets your address from the email envelope, you MUST signoff from THE SAME ACCOUNT that you used when you subscribed. If you still can't get on or off the list, try sending the listserv the following request in the body of a new email: REVIEW listname (SHORT Example: review sorehand (short If things are working right, you should quickly get a parcel of information including the address of the list owner who has magical powers over the list. For further information about listserv operation, send: HELP to the listserve, in the body of a new email message. Dick Dick Karpinski dick@ccnext Ad for the day: LET EVERYBODY HELP Point Gopher at itsa.ucsf.edu (port 70) and take a look at "A Guide to Questions, Answers, and Information about Everything" in "Questions, ...", in "Computers...", in the root menu. Send email.