Eric: I realize you are no longer supporting 1.7f but I wanted to be sure the bug described wasn't propogated into 1.8a where it might affect your bottom line. ;-) I thought other LSTSRV-L subscribers might want to know about this if they don't already. Of course maybe this is a known problem... Subscribers subscribed to ROOTS-L with Mail= Index have reported errors in the "daily" index lists they have received. The item numbers do not match the item numbers of the database index output. When they try to retrieve one of the items from the index they get the wrong item (in a recent case the numbers were off by 3). Below are two of the index distributions for the list. The 1st one is ok. The 2nd one is the next Index output with errors. The third item is the output of a search * in ROOTS-L.32350-32430 INDEX output for the relevant time. Here is what appeared to happen. 1. Sample index 1 (special index for first part of 11/04/93) ends with item 32392. 2. Sample index 2 (final issue for 11/04/93) starts with 32396. Three numbers were skipped. The prototype JOB item numbers listed are incorrect too (at the end of the index). They start at 32396 instead of 32393. 3. The item numbers listed in index 2 are 3 items larger than they should be UNTIL we reach 32420. At that point they item numbers match the actual database numbers. Therefore anyone ordering daily index items 32396 through 32419 will get a different item than the one they intended. 4. Comparing the master database item list at the end we find three items were omitted from the index 2: The real 32417-32419. 5. Note that these are dated with the previous month. I suspect LISTSERV was confused by change in month. But since the only date LISTSERV records is the date of origin this can vary for up to 24 hours before the new month (due to time zone differences) and for days afterward (due to mail delays). I'm not sure if LISTSERV had intended to list the items in date order and "forgot about them" when the index was created or just what happened. Marty Hoag ----- 1 - Index Output BEFORE item with errors -------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1993 12:50:08 -0600 From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ROOTS-L Index - 3 Nov 1993 to 4 Nov 1993 - Special issue To: Recipients of ROOTS-L indexes <[log in to unmask]> Index Date Size Poster and subject ----- ---- ---- ------------------ 32355 11/04 26 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: MONROE/MUNROE 32356 11/03 11 From: "Yigal M. Rechtman 1st" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: National Family Database-what's the telnet address? 32357 11/04 27 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: WYATT 32358 11/03 9 From: "KEN DUNMIRE <[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: New Scand Immigrant Book 32359 11/03 27 From: "Paul E. Flemming Jr." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: BATEMAN 32360 11/03 16 From: "Paul E. Flemming Jr." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ROBINSON,RODGERS,WHITE 32361 11/04 24 From: Kathleen Much <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FFV 32362 11/04 33 From: Charlie Dennett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: New FAQ File - FAQ COMMERCL 32363 11/04 16 From: Mike More <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Missing Mayflower Link 32364 11/04 14 From: Mike More <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Canada/General Info 32365 11/04 13 From: Brenda Esslinger <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Converting GEDCOM to PAF 32366 11/03 8 From: Nancy H Fetterly <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RASKAM/ROSKAM/PALMER geneology 32367 11/02 3 From: Dan Wilson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Steele's/PA 32368 11/04 23 From: Barry Martin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: William FUTTER - Film Producer 32369 11/04 43 From: Arno Jene <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Surnames in Germany 32370 11/03 23 From: Fred Rump from home <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Surnames in Germany 32371 11/03 7 From: Mitch Walker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ABBOTTS - Looking for information 32372 11/04 9 From: "Rebecca C. Drummond" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Recognisance Bond 32373 11/04 11 From: Jerry Bennett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Surnames in Germany 32374 11/04 15 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: for [log in to unmask] 32375 11/04 60 From: Alf Christophersen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Subscribing to FAQ files and other files often updated on Roots-L? 32376 11/04 83 From: Norma Lorraine Buydens <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Resources at the U of S 32377 11/04 17 From: "Robert C. Seavey" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Converting GEDCOM to PAF 32378 11/03 12 From: Kim Kynast <[log in to unmask]> Subject: LICAUSI FAMILY 32379 11/03 19 From: Kim Kynast <[log in to unmask]> Subject: On-Line Libraries 32380 11/04 18 From: Glenn Stone <[log in to unmask]> Subject: National Archives, Washington 32381 11/04 6 From: Bill Kelly <[log in to unmask]> Subject: treepar software 32382 11/04 14 From: stan crump <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Please Subscribe Me 32383 11/04 29 From: Dick Schoeller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Surnames in Germany 32384 11/04 42 From: Clare Bates Congdon <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preserving old photographs (rolled up photos) 32385 11/04 27 From: Rik Vigeland <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Royal connections to Mohammed? 32386 11/04 1 From: Michael Peck <[log in to unmask]> Subject: <No subject given> 32387 11/04 10 From: Michael Peck <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FAQ PHOTOS 32388 11/04 12 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Accessing libraries online 32389 11/04 13 From: David Chapin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Sidney Australia Help? 32390 11/04 1 From: Michael Peck <[log in to unmask]> Subject: <No subject given> 32391 11/04 4 From: Michael Peck <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Brain Damage 32392 11/04 11 From: thomas mcfarland <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ballymoney, Co. Antrim, IRL The sizes shown are the number of lines in the messages, not counting mail ... boilerplate removed... that this may not work with all mail programs; the first method is more reliable. // JOB Database search DD=Orders //Orders DD * Select * in ROOTS-L.32355-32392 Print <type the numbers of the messages you want here> /* // EOJ ----- 2 - Index Output With Errors -------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1993 00:00:49 -0600 From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ROOTS-L Index - 4 Nov 1993 To: Recipients of ROOTS-L indexes <[log in to unmask]> Index Date Size Poster and subject ----- ---- ---- ------------------ 32396 11/04 29 From: Bo Kleve <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: National Family Database-what's the telnet address? 32397 11/04 23 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: researching the following names 32398 11/04 19 From: "Yigal M. Rechtman 1st" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Family National Database-unavailble 32399 11/04 17 From: "Yigal M. Rechtman 1st" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: On-Line Libraries 32400 11/04 10 From: Kathy Collier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: VILLONT family 32401 11/03 49 From: Deb Koplen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ARNOLD 32402 11/03 66 From: Deb Koplen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: COLLIN(G)SWORTH 32403 11/04 43 From: Jim Eggert x6127 <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: On-Line Libraries 32404 11/04 25 From: Michael Peck <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Photo Preservation 32405 11/04 10 From: Tom Lincoln <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bible says Genealogy a NO NO??? 32406 11/04 34 From: Whalen Kuller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: On-Line Libraries (YES!!) 32407 11/04 5 From: Don Chesnut <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Everton's CD-ROMs 32408 11/04 10 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: On-line libraries 32409 11/04 10 From: "Stephen J. Kotchen" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Searching for SELWAY 32410 11/04 22 From: "ENG::MOORE_PC"@ADMIN.MTI.COM Subject: Need "American Genealogist" help 32411 11/04 25 From: Bob Lightburn 703733-5943 <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Researching DUNN 32412 11/04 15 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: WOODS Surname 32413 11/05 17 From: Stephen Fitzgerald <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Tunnelleer Alf FITZGERALD 32414 11/04 20 From: Al Buddy Holmes <[log in to unmask]> Subject: LITERAL POWLAS OLLER 32415 11/04 21 From: John Coates <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: more on minor land ownership 32416 11/04 12 From: comm studies dept <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Research BENNER 32417 11/05 16 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: HINSENKAMP 32418 11/05 17 From: Leverett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Researching ERVING, IRVING, JAQUES 32419 11/04 67 From: "Juan A. Varela F." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SUMMARY: Brother's Keeper vs. Family Origins 32420 11/04 9 From: ALAN SHEPPARD <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ft Ripley MN Newspapers 32421 11/04 10 From: "Jack Mount [log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Researching PIERSON in NJ 32422 11/04 14 From: Craig Partridge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Veterans records in Nat Archives 32423 11/04 20 From: "Juan A. Varela F." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Intelligence Records? 32424 11/04 15 From: Joe Price <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ROOTS IV 32425 11/01 5 From: 2otters <[log in to unmask]> Subject: trying to find Crofton brothers from ireland 32426 11/04 13 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: WHERE IS CRIEF, SCOTLAND The sizes shown are the number of lines in the messages, not counting mail ... boilerplate deleted ... that this may not work with all mail programs; the first method is more reliable. // JOB Database search DD=Orders //Orders DD * Select * in ROOTS-L.32396-32426 Print <type the numbers of the messages you want here> /* // EOJ ----- 3 - Database INDEX Output With Correct Item # --------------------- > * Test comment line here... * > search * in roots-l.32350-32430 --> Database ROOTS-L, 81 hits. > index Item # Date Time Recs Subject ------ ---- ---- ---- ------- 032350 93/11/03 18:18 17 Re: Roots Newsletter 032351 93/11/03 16:33 53 Re: Missing Mayflower Link 032352 93/11/03 23:04 64 Kansas Trails 032353 93/11/04 00:06 17 BLAIR RESEARCHERS 032354 93/11/03 22:45 29 Re: Keeping old documents - --- Index 1 above starts with next item --- 032355 93/11/04 04:07 32 MONROE/MUNROE 032356 93/11/03 23:07 17 National Family Database-what's the telnet address? 032357 93/11/04 04:08 33 WYATT 032358 93/11/03 22:28 17 New Scand Immigrant Book 032359 93/11/03 22:43 33 BATEMAN 032360 93/11/03 23:43 22 ROBINSON,RODGERS,WHITE 032361 93/11/04 01:19 32 Re: FFV 032362 93/11/04 00:47 41 New FAQ File - FAQ COMMERCL 032363 93/11/04 02:08 24 Re: Missing Mayflower Link 032364 93/11/04 02:10 22 Re: Canada/General Info 032365 93/11/04 04:00 21 Re: Converting GEDCOM to PAF 032366 93/11/03 06:08 16 RASKAM/ROSKAM/PALMER geneology 032367 93/11/02 14:46 11 Re: Steele's/PA 032368 93/11/04 09:41 29 William FUTTER - Film Producer 032369 93/11/04 07:37 51 Re: Surnames in Germany 032370 93/11/03 18:21 31 Re: Surnames in Germany 032371 93/11/03 13:43 15 ABBOTTS - Looking for information 032372 93/11/04 08:45 15 Recognisance Bond 032373 93/11/04 08:16 19 Re: Surnames in Germany 032374 93/11/04 09:28 21 for [log in to unmask] 032375 93/11/04 14:17 68 Subscribing to FAQ files and other files often upd+ 032376 93/11/04 08:39 89 Resources at the U of S 032377 93/11/04 06:37 23 Re: Converting GEDCOM to PAF 032378 93/11/03 08:54 20 LICAUSI FAMILY 032379 93/11/03 11:31 27 On-Line Libraries 032380 93/11/04 14:26 26 National Archives, Washington 032381 93/11/04 14:33 14 treepar software 032382 93/11/04 08:30 20 Please Subscribe Me 032383 93/11/04 10:34 37 Re: Surnames in Germany 032384 93/11/04 11:07 52 Re: Preserving old photographs (rolled up photos) 032385 93/11/04 08:29 33 Royal connections to Mohammed? 032386 93/11/04 10:51 6 032387 93/11/04 11:23 16 FAQ PHOTOS 032388 93/11/04 12:53 20 Accessing libraries online 032389 93/11/04 12:07 19 Sidney Australia Help? 032390 93/11/04 12:04 6 032391 93/11/04 12:10 10 Brain Damage --- Index 1 above ends with next item --- 032392 93/11/04 12:29 17 Ballymoney, Co. Antrim, IRL --- Index 2 above starts with next item BUT WITH Number 32396!!! 032393 93/11/04 19:46 35 Re: National Family Database-what's the telnet add+ 032394 93/11/04 12:53 29 researching the following names 032395 93/11/04 14:26 26 Re: Family National Database-unavailble 032396 93/11/04 14:28 23 Re: On-Line Libraries 032397 93/11/04 13:32 16 VILLONT family 032398 93/11/03 22:38 56 ARNOLD 032399 93/11/03 22:40 73 COLLIN(G)SWORTH 032400 93/11/04 13:47 52 Re: On-Line Libraries 032401 93/11/04 14:02 31 Re: Photo Preservation 032402 93/11/04 12:05 18 Re: Bible says Genealogy a NO NO??? 032403 93/11/04 12:11 41 Re: On-Line Libraries (YES!!) 032404 93/11/04 15:56 11 Everton's CD-ROMs 032405 93/11/04 16:04 18 Re: On-line libraries 032406 93/11/04 16:46 16 Searching for SELWAY 032407 93/11/04 13:46 28 Need "American Genealogist" help 032408 93/11/04 16:57 33 Researching DUNN 032409 93/11/04 13:58 21 WOODS Surname 032410 93/11/05 08:35 23 Tunnelleer Alf FITZGERALD 032411 93/11/04 17:16 26 LITERAL POWLAS OLLER 032412 93/11/04 14:19 27 Re: more on minor land ownership 032413 93/11/04 17:01 18 Research BENNER 032414 93/11/05 00:58 22 HINSENKAMP 032415 93/11/05 02:05 23 Researching ERVING, IRVING, JAQUES 032416 93/11/04 13:17 12 SUMMARY: Brother's Keeper vs. Family Origins --- Next three items missing from daily index output --- NOTE DATE 032417 93/10/28 10:21 17 Re: Brother's Keeper Vs. Family Origins. 032418 93/10/28 09:55 27 Re: Brother's Keeper Vs. Family Origins. 032419 93/10/28 14:00 16 Re: Brother's Keeper Vs. Family Origins. --- In Index 2 above the rest of the items have the right number --- 032420 93/11/04 19:26 15 Ft Ripley MN Newspapers 032421 93/11/04 19:32 16 Researching PIERSON in NJ 032422 93/11/04 20:52 22 Re: Veterans records in Nat Archives 032423 93/11/04 14:53 28 Intelligence Records? 032424 93/11/04 21:25 21 ROOTS IV 032425 93/11/01 14:27 12 trying to find Crofton brothers from ireland --- Index 2 above ends with next item --- 032426 93/11/04 21:59 19 WHERE IS CRIEF, SCOTLAND 032427 93/11/05 03:04 24 Residents of Crockett, CA 1860-1900 032428 93/11/05 00:19 27 recent military photo 032429 93/11/05 02:22 40 Re: Royal connections to Mohammed? 032430 93/11/04 23:07 46 Re: On-Line Libraries