Unless you reset the date of the listserver, you can find out when the list was started by sending a this message to the listserver: stats "list_name" At the top of the response from the listserver, you will find the date the listserver was set up, how many days have gone by since, and the number of messages people have posted. Jean-Jacques Rajter Medical College of Pennsylvania Internet: [log in to unmask] Owner of PJD-L@TEMPLEVM