One thing you should do is GET LEAVING BITNET from listserv@bitnic (@bitnic.educom.edu). Though you will be loosing LISTSERV as well as your bitnet node name, there is no reason why you can't lie a little and update the DNS for wmvm1.cc.wm.edu and MX it to a cooperating host. Also make sure you understand the use of the :NEWNODE tag, via [log in to unmask] (I have Listserv GIVE the file to you.) /Pete ([log in to unmask]) -- co-owner LDBASE-L, TQM-L, CPARK-L, et -L -- Peter M. Weiss "The 'NET' never naps" +1 814 863 1843 31 Shields Bldg. -- Penn State Univ -- University Park, PA 16802-1202 USA