This topic reminds me of WordPerfect for some reason. Think about it. If WordPerfect was only available for DOS, not for Windows, or any other OS, I wonder if its use would decline. I think its to Eric's credit that despite the decline in the number of mainframes on BITnet, Listserv traffic remains high and seems to be increasing (at least from my viewpoint). By the way, I definitely plan to ask my employer to buy into Lsoft next fiscal year. Of course, I will continue to be a Listserv advocate until Listserv no longer meets the needs of Temple's computer users. I don't see that happening any time soon, although I had my doubts a couple of years ago. If you're developing a commercial software product that's available only on one platform, you're looking for trouble because there's a good chance for that platform to fall out of favor as happens so often in this business. My Mac IIvx, for instance, was obsolete before I took delivery on it about a year ago. Software developers and others in this business must offer specific services, not specific hardware or software. Sell services, not "stuff". I think Eric has reached this realization. I hope others in this business also recognize this because unemployement lines aren't fun places to visit ... so I have heard. Sorry for preaching. Stan Horwitz, Consultant | Bitnet | Internet Temple University | V4039@TEMPLEVM | [log in to unmask]