With 1.7f the only non-acrobatic way is to put the message in a 'listname MAILFORM' file on LISTSERV's A-disk and not use the WELCOME message. But I don't recommend that approach since the format of the MAILFORM files has changed with 1.8a (they are now called MAILTPL), and there is a much simpler solution with 1.8a: put the text in the WELCOME message, and create a 'listname MAILTPL' file with the following contents: >>> SIGNUP1 .qq >>> ADD1 .qq As a CREN member you can get 1.8a at no cost by filling in the paperwork available from LISTSERV@SEARN as CREN_MNT.PS and SA9403-1.PS. Eric