We've had a case of lazy looping mail from BRODER.COM which you might want to be aware of. This showed up on the WRITERS list here (VM1.NODAK.EDU/NDSUVM1). I noticed the WRITERS list had gone on hold, apparently for exceeding a daily threshold of 150 messages/day. I found that mail appeared to be looping From: [log in to unmask] with Subject: Message not deliverable The problem was that broder.com had completely replaced the headers with their own. A copy of one of the messages is included below. Only the Sender stayed intact but LISTSERV didn't catch that. The number of messages between the original and the duplicate exceeded the Daily-Threshold (set at 150). The Subject wasn't one that LISTSERV checks for. The original message was not included in the mail, and the origin wasn't Postmaster... The error was not sent to the MAIL FROM address. In short, the mail system could hardly have done more to mask the original mail origin. You may want to make sure the From address is served out on your system. Marty Return-Path: <@VM1.NODAK.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from NDSUVM1 (NJE origin SMTP@NDSUVM1) by VM1.NODAK.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8692; Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:04:08 -0600 Received: from nntp.crl.com by VM1.NoDak.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 22 Mar 94 01:04:06 CST Received: by nntp.crl.com with UUCP id AA03064 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for [log in to unmask]); Mon, 21 Mar 1994 22:49:24 -0800 Received: from cc:Mail by broder.broder.com id AA764318439 Mon, 21 Mar 94 22:40:39 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 94 22:40:39 From: [log in to unmask] Encoding: 697 Text Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> To: WRITERS <[log in to unmask]> Sender: WRITERS <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Message not deliverable I climb out of the boat, dejected. Now that that knave Sir Loin has overtaken me there seems to be no way of reaching the goddess first since the journey is but a short one from here. But wait.... A woman with a dark-blue velvet cloth draped about her waiste kneels at the edge of the only river that runs through this forest. Her stringy brown hair is wrapped around her face and she doesn't seem to notice my approach. I'm startled when she asks me if I'm searching for the Goddess; she is looking into the water. I tell her I've been sent to kill a dragon and that I hope the Goddess will guilde me. She laughs and tells me to drink from the river. - Sir Poetman of Poetica!!!