On Sat, 30 Apr 1994 10:19:55 -0500 Natalie Maynor said: >> If you're deleting a person for a bounce(s), why would you then turn >> around and want to send them another piece of mail that's probably >> just going to bounce, too? (For that matter, wouldn't you QUIET DELETE My personal experience is that even when a system claims emphatically that an e-mail address isn't valid, mail sent to it will get through about 50% of the time. So, I routinely send the following mail message to anyone I "quiet delete" from a mailinglist. In many cases they resubscribe right away, and often say they had no idea there was any disruption in their mail service (other than the note I sent). I also include a copy of the mail delivery notice in case the user wants to contact their systems support staff and find out what went wrong. -jj PS - This form letter is used *only* in those cases where the mail delivery error claims the address is invalid. So, I'm not talking about people being over disk quota, systems being unreachable for XX days, or 'unknown mailer error -923123' mystery messages. I have different form letters for those cases. :) What I'm getting at is that mail will often get through even then the receiving host flatly denies that the address is valid. I have no idea what kinds of problems cause such computerpsychosis, but I have found it useful to try to reach people no matter how definitive the deliver error is. --- form letter follows: I received the following "there is no such person" message from your local/regional mail gateway. I'm going to believe what it tells me and remove your address from the list. I'm sending this note just in case it's lying. You can re-subscribe by sending the appropriate command to [log in to unmask] via e-mail. If you have any questions/problems feel free to mail me at jimj@jhuvm (Bitnet) or [log in to unmask] (Internet). -jj