Well, I suggested to them that they try writing to the postmaster. Eventually the postmaster there in Japan may get around to doing something. Apparently not right away though. Meanwhile they now tell me they have great faith that my message to this list will produce something. I don't think I want to mention possibilities of faking an outgoing address on a piece of mail. Anyone have a technique for getting a sleeping postmaster for an owner-absent listserv to pay attention? A copy of the latest message about this is below. Thanks for your help. Vickie Banks [log in to unmask] --------------------- (Forwarded message follows) ---------------------- Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 10:20:52 EDT Sender: Forum on Indian and Buddhist Studies <[log in to unmask]> From: Bill Kish <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Signoff Comments: To: [log in to unmask] To: Multiple recipients of list BUDDHIST <[log in to unmask]> Charles Prebish: > Might you all consider sending your presumably well intentioned suggestion > privately, so the rest of us can get some relief from invoking the DISCARD > kooan incessantly? No. Handling the matter privately hasn't been working since the listowner doesn't respond. Perhaps the best way to find relief would be to suggest strategies that might actually work ? Hopefully Vickie Banks will have some luck with her contacts on [log in to unmask] Vickie Banks: > I sent the command HELP to [log in to unmask] > > It returned some info plus the email postmasters there: > > Hiroki Shizuya [log in to unmask] > and [log in to unmask] > > Those of you having a problem signing off might try writing to the > postmaster addresses and see if anyone is li First of all, thanks for helping out - your efforts are greatly appreciated. I have also tried sending mail to both of the addresses you list here, but haven't received any replies yet. Right now your messages to [log in to unmask] are the best hope for getting the problem resolved. -Bill Kish