I haven't sentyou anything yet because we are sitting here stunned at watching this whole thing come together like some grizzly nightmare right down to the presence of UC and combination of uucp and uunet that we were looking for in someone else's routing. I think you have your problem solved now and so do I. I now have what I need to link all the pieces together. I think that Dan Wheeler is closer to the source of the problem than Melvin Klassen. That should solve your mail problem. Are the copies of the errors still coming? I got many copies of the same mail on many days like punctutation which seemed to correspond to other events and communications. Are you getting about ten to twenty of the same error messages from the same source at intervals or are they different ones? There is one other thing. Are your messages linked to outages at various sites where your list or address is located: on each occasion we have recorded disastrous outages like power failures and surges putting down all communications. Thanks--Paul -- Dr. Paul S. di Virgilio, University of Toronto [log in to unmask]