Ok, I think we've heard just about a whole tenth of the anarchy/freedom circular discussion that runs as a background job on usenet, eating up the fabled surplus cycles which would otherwise be wasted proving that breaking RSA with idiotic methods takes a very long time. I invite people who are interested in this topic to continue the debate on the appropriate usenet groups (if you read a group long enough, you'll discover that just about ANY group appears to be appropriate for this kind of discussion ;-) ). Meanwhile let's keep this list to its original topic. Eric