> True, subscribing to a list can be a minor hassle. > >Worse is getting *off* the list. *That*'s the hassle. > Bull! It's just as easy to get off as it is to get on. The problem is that people don't pay attention to the instructions they get when they first subscribe. Then when they want off, they send a message to the list, which, of course, loses. J. Random User also doesn't know that when his node id changes, while he will still get mail from the list, he can't do anything about his subscription because LISTSERV doesn't recognize him. (Which is the fault of his node administrator for not telling him what to do about it.) I subscribe (for example) to the PAGEMAKR list on INDYCMS. There are three co-owners on that list who have just about killed themselves explaining to users that they can't unsub or set options by sending commands to the list. Yet about every 10th message to the list is a "please unsubscribe me" message. (or at least it seems like it) Unfortunately, with the entry level of so many new users being rock bottom-- thanks to the ever-expanding Information StuporHighway--this is something listowners are going to have to address constantly. Sorry about the tirade, but I get so TIRED of people talking about how hard it is to use LISTSERV. It ain't LISTSERV--it's the broken mailers and non-standard interfaces and mis-configured mail software that lie between the users and LISTSERV that cause half the problem, and uneducated users that cause the other half. BITNET: NBRINDLE@INDYCMS ------------ Internet: [log in to unmask] Nathan C. Brindle, Student Activities Office Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis Staff Advisor, Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Service Fraternity, Tau Omicron Chapter List Manager, ACCESS-L, BRTHPRNT, EXCEL-L@INDYCMS and other lists Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Indiana University can speak for itself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------