Not sure why the software isn't catching this loop. Had to make the list Private the other day to break the loop. Any idea why Listserv's standard filter doesn't catch this? Loop seems to be between the following two addresses From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] - - The original note follows - - Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:12:17 -0400 Sender: DEC's The Education Initiative Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Undetermined origin c/o Postmaster <[log in to unmask]> To: Multiple recipients of list DECTEI-L <[log in to unmask]> ---- Transcript of session follows ---- 196608 %NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000 -SYSTEM-S-NORMAL, normal successful completion ---- Unsent message follows ---- Received: from USCN by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7480; Fri, 27 May 94 01:19:21 EDT Received: from USCN.USCN.UGA.EDU by USCN (outbound name server) with BSMTP; 27 May 94 01:18:14 EST Return-path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from USCN by USCN.USCN.UGA.EDU with BSMTP; 27 May 94 01:17:45 EST Received: from USCN by USCN (inbound name server) with BSMTP; 27 May 94 01:16:46 EST Received: from UGA (MAILER) by USCN for <RBIALAC@USCN> via BITNet with NJF id DECTEI-L; 27 May 94 01:16:22 EST Return-Path: <@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9201; Fri, 27 May 1994 01:15:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 01:13:10 -0400 Reply-to: [log in to unmask] Sender: [log in to unmask] Comments: <Parser> E: "From:"/"Sender:" field is missing. From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Resent-Date: Fri, 27 May 94 01:17:49 EST Resent-to: [log in to unmask] ---- Transcript of session follows ---- %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user BIALAC-MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening !AS as output-RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed-SYSTEM-W-DIRALLOC, allocation failur e on directory file ---- Recipients of this delivery ---- <[log in to unmask]> (bounced) ---- Unsent message follows ---- Received: from USCN by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7420; Fri, 27 May 94 01:09:11 EDT Received: from USCN.USCN.UGA.EDU by USCN (outbound name server) with BSMTP; 27 May 94 01:07:50 EST Return-path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from USCN by USCN.USCN.UGA.EDU with BSMTP; 27 May 94 01:06:15 EST Received: from USCN by USCN (inbound name server) with BSMTP; 27 May 94 01:05:10 EST Received: from UGA (MAILER) by USCN for <RBIALAC@USCN> via BITNet with NJF id DECTEI-L; 27 May 94 01:04:50 EST Return-Path: <@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8125; Fri, 27 May 1994 01:03:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 01:00:23 -0400 Reply-to: [log in to unmask] Sender: [log in to unmask] Comments: <Parser> E: "From:"/"Sender:" field is missing. From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Resent-Date: Fri, 27 May 94 01:06:19 EST Resent-to: [log in to unmask] ---- Transcript of session follows ---- %MAIL-E-SENDERR, error sending to user BIALAC-MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error opening !AS as output-RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed-SYSTEM-W-DIRALLOC, allocation failur e on directory file ---- Recipients of this delivery ---- <[log in to unmask]> (bounced) ---- Unsent message follows ---- Return-Path: [log in to unmask] Received: by gcvax.gac.peachnet.edu (UCX V2.0-08) Fri, 27 May 1994 00:57:52 -0400 Received: from USCN by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7387; Fri, 27 May 94 00:59:52 EDT Received: from USCN.USCN.UGA.EDU by USCN (outbound name server) with BSMTP; 27 May 94 00:59:24 EST Return-path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from USCN by USCN.USCN.UGA.EDU with BSMTP; 27 May 94 00:58:59 EST Received: from USCN by USCN (inbound name server) with BSMTP; 27 May 94 00:58:37 EST Received: from UGA (MAILER) by USCN for <RBIALAC@USCN> via BITNet with NJF id DECTEI-L; 27 May 94 00:58:21 EST Return-Path: <@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU:[log in to unmask]> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7267; Fri, 27 May 1994 00:57:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 00:42:00 EDT Reply-to: [log in to unmask] Sender: [log in to unmask] From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Puchasing licenses with 50% CSLG discount To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: gshapiro AT WPI.EDU -- Thu, 26 May 1994 10:30:45 -0400 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Resent-Date: Fri, 27 May 94 00:59:02 EST Resent-to: [log in to unmask] gshapiro at wp.edu said: >If we purchase a license using the 50% CSLG discount, are we still bound by >the same rules as the CSLG program, specifically, the rule that says the >licenses cannot be used by non-school employees or students (i.e. guests)? The licenses that can be purchased from Digital at the 50% discount are normal, everyday COMMERCIAL licenses. There is NO restriction applied to a COMMERCIAL license WRT your questions (eg. non-student, non-university associated, etc.). Almost anyone can use them! The only relationship between a commercial license purchased at list and a commercial license purchased at 50% of list is the fact that the DISCOUNT schedule itself (namely 50% of list) is available only to Educational Institutions meeting certain Digital criteria... and as I remember it (I'm at home and can't look this up just now) there is no relationship between the CSLG Program and the 50% commercial license discount. As I recall, it is only necessary that the purchaser be a "certified," degree granting or K through 12 institution as defined by Digital. In fact, the Digital Initiative that provides this 50% discount is called the EMB (Educational Market Basket) program and it is one of about six separate aspects of the Digital TEI (The Educational Initiative) Program. NOTE that the CSLG program is another (unrelated to the EMB program) aspect of the TEI program as is the ESL program and the Hardware Stockpiling and Self-Repair program. (I *know* I didn't get the title of that last once exactly right, but please allow for the fact that I'm not at the office just now.) Hope this helps, Jim Forkner - Penn State University TEI Administrator (814) 865-4775