If your list is setup to do RENEWAL processing, and the subscriber's userid does NOT have the NORENEW option set, and has not issued a SET/SUB command within the renewal period, and LISTSERV has generated a RENEWAL NOTIFICATION Email ("Confirm") to the user and the notificaton period has NOT expired, THEN you will find that user in the PENDING state. Or something like that ;-) -- co-owner INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L [log in to unmask] "My lists are w/o PEERS ;-)" s/me +1 814 863 1843 31 Shields Bldg. -- Penn State Univ -- University Park, PA 16802-1202 USA