There is a list: VIOLEN-L at BRUSPVM evidently that is LISTSERV 1.7f the list header says: * VALIDATE= All commands I have been trying to get a user off this list for 4 weeks ( User claims almost all traffic is people trying to get off list !! ) no response from list owner, postmast PW ADD commands reply 'forwarded to LISTSERV management' - then nothing else after several weeks Anyone have any suggestions as to what else I can try ?? TIA - mike