As to the filters, I think it would be great to be able to keep them out of the review output, but I think this has come up before and Eric said he couldn't do it without rewriting everything, or something like that. The list password doesn't show up with review, though, so why can't something similar be done with filter? Would be nice. As to quiet owners, there are quiet owners and quiet owners. I'm a quiet owner, but everyone knows I'm the secondary owner as I ain't exactly quiet on the list and I don't mind people asking me questions nor that my address is listed in the header. As I understand it, being a quiet listowner merely means LISTSERV doesn't send you certain things related to the list. But I suppose some coowners might prefer total anonimity, perhaps a new keyword like invisible, or hidden, or concealed or something like that. Douglas Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner