Evidently St Johns University is not on line at the moment. No list mail for about 36 hours. I'd like to learn how to checkout what is and isn't down so I can intelligently answer the queries I am getting. I've seen posts to this list about the *results* of that kind of inquiry, but not what the commands were that made them. I have a shell account with netcom, no more *hands on* access than that, and manage my list by e mail. Thanks. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sylvia Caras, owner, MADNESS an online list managed by [log in to unmask] "Nothing about me, without me." [log in to unmask] v/f:408 426 5335 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%