FYI - the "INTERBIT problem" in question, for those not familiar with BITNET, is the source of most of the delivery delays we have experienced since January. Eric *---------------------- Original message follows -----------------------* CREN has been attacking the INTERBIT problem from three directions. Briefly they are: 1) Provide Listproc so the list management function can be moved to smaller, cheaper Unix systems. 2) Provide a high volume mail transfer agent for Unix systems (ZMailer). 3) Provide P/370s to be installed in RS/6000s so the P/370 can do NJE routing and the RS/6000 deliver Internet mail. Number 1 is available today. Some of our members are doing a lot of mail using Listproc and ZMailer. I've asked Marco (our Listproc specialist) to put together some information about how much mail some of our sites are handling and their hardware configurations. Number 2 is available but not as easy to install and use as we'd like. Marco has been working with the current maintainer of ZMailer to improve installation, use and performance and also for a port to AIX so it could be combined with number 3. We've also done some experimenting with ZMailer on a Sun acting as the delivery agent for SMTP on VM and have seen some very promising results but not yet a full INTERBIT replacement for a large core site. Number 3 has been the biggest disappointment so far. It requires IBM do develop ethernet drivers on the RS/6000 to allow the P/370 to use the RS/6000 ethernet interface (they already exist on the PS/2). We've been hoping for this but haven't heard a thing from IBM about it. The token ring drivers do exist so as a short term workaround Arty Ecock has been working on a solution where the P/370 uses the token ring drivers, the RS/6000 and SNA to define an SNALINK for TCP/IP. Obviously this is not ideal since it is a lot of overhead and requires token ring and SNA but its a start in the direction. These are CREN's ideas for removing the huge INTERBIT load from IBM mainframes. None of these solve the entire INTERBIT problem for sites doing the highest volume. Our goal is to provide some relief in the short term and solve the entire problem in the long term. I wonder if further discussion should take place on the INTERIBT list? It is open to subscription by anyone. Larry