I will put in my $.02 about where list/newsgroup communication is going. Remember, it is worth every penny you paid for it. The right way to regulate the s/n of a list is to edit it. I do not mean for content, a poster should have an absolute right to post if he will pay a sufficient bill. For example, I would let Cantor and Siegal post to my list on building PCs for $10 per subscriber. At that rate they could subsidize a lot of useful traffic. At that rate, I think they would decline. But it would be rational on both sides. Where lists are going is to announced sponsorship. Some lists (like hobby lists) would probably be sponsored by the readers. A few lists (like help lists) would be sponsored by the posters. Even fewer lists (like tech support lists) would be paid for by a vendor who found that to be cheaper than commercial tech support. But every list would cost recover, including the time of the editor at something like $8-12 per hour. This is the only way lists will be viable. If you need proof of that, look at C$ and aol. Dave Dave Gomberg Internet: [log in to unmask]