Chris, The problem is not really that people don't want to help any more or host lists of academic interest for free, but that many people have found themselves in just about the same situation as A&M regarding traffic volumes. LISTSERV traffic has increased by 25% from Jan 15 to Feb 15! This kind of increase can create problems very quickly if you're doing your deliveries on a mainframe where upgrades cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. While many sites are looking very seriously into offloading these deliveries to a unix machine, not all have an available unix server *today*. Buying a machine at this time of the budget year is not an easy task, and on top of that you have to account for the usual 2 months of administrative delays, and then the vendor has to deliver the machine, it has to be installed and configured, etc. For many universities, we're talking 3-4 months, whereas the users are clamouring now :-) I think the trend will reverse once people implement lists in a more cost effective manner. Eric