A lot of info has come over the list piece meal and those of us facing elimination have lots of decisions to make. It might help it someone with the time (big problem I know) and the knowledge could put one list of contact names and addresses of commercial sites together that we can all then use. I've contacted one and the name/address of another got away from me. (MY sys administrator threatens to wipe us all out if we don't delete just about everything.) I've not given up on a univ site (maybe I should) but I've gotten some support from a FEW list members who say...tell me where to send the donations. AT least I'm ready to move..........