<disclaimer on> There is a short cut, but if you have multiple list-owners, you would need to coordinate your efforts. (I have read the above paragraph. Initial here > < ;-) The short-cut is: GET listname (HEAD NOL This does NOT in any way lock the list, nor does it get the subscriber info (thus your list can accept listserv subscription service commands). Update your headers as per usual and PUT them back to the LISTSERV. If you have need of additional updates AND if you are the ONLY one doing this, you need not refetch by doing the above GET, just locally update your copy of the headers and PUT back to LISTSERV. -- co-owner INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L [log in to unmask] "Laissez les bon temps rouler" +1 814 863 1843 31 Shields Bldg. -- Penn State Univ -- University Park, PA 16802-1202 USA