Validate= Yes seems to be the "correct" setting under 1.8b. However, it seems to then require confirmation for the SIGNOFF command. I love the confirmation on subscriptions, but I'd really like users to be able to get off without confirming. Can I have my cake and eat it too? When I see an unconfirmed SIGNOFF request, I normally delete the user myself. ----- Bill Verity (814)-865-4758 [log in to unmask] Research Associate - Consulting and Applications Support Group Center for Academic Computing, Penn State Postmaster - psuvm.psu.edu Listserv and Mailer maintainer