>You are not punishing Demon users, they already punished themselves when >they chose Demon, you are simply making them aware of the consequences Just out of curiosity, how many other service providers have some of those users within local calling range? I don't know what the set-up is in Britain. And how is their pricing compared to others? Sometimes, you have to go with whatever you can afford and can get to. I know I'd resent it bitterly if the only company I *could* logically choose is being barred from lists, thus barring *me* from lists, even though *I* am totally blameless in the matter and am a model net citizen. (Yes, users can complain, but if a company is the only game in town, it's got a captive audience -- you think the company will respond any more favourably to users than to listowners under those circumstances?) >Dave Gomberg, San Francisco Internet: [log in to unmask] Mario Rups [log in to unmask]