Since the Demon at Demon appears to be reading the list....I'll comment here. I operate ten lists on several servers. I delete Demon customers the minute I get the first bounce and also hate the continuing bounces. The precedence code is nonsense in many environments, so that proposed solution is meaningless. Only one of my lists runs on a Unix box. I've been VERY tempted to serve out all Demon subscribers, but have so far abstained....but it could happen soon if things aren't fixed soon. Even changing the 8 day notice to three days would keep me from zapping them all. cyclops Dan Lester Internet: [log in to unmask] Network Information Coordinator WWW: http://cyclops.idbsu.edu/ Boise State University Library Boise, Idaho 83725 How can one fool make another wise? 208-385-1235 Kansas, "No One Together," 1979