6 april 1995 Ottawa Canada Your description of the problem user spamming many lists is the best reason i can think of for each and every list having: subscription: open by owner send: private and possibly verify: all Then he can send to every list in the world, but if he isn't a member, he will have his mail rejected. He can still send to all the listowners of the world but will not get the public atention he seeks. Sorry to hear about the problem user. Good luck with the fix. One of the reasons i asked my site admin to make my list send: private. Brian lingard [log in to unmask]