6 april 1995 Ottawa Canada I wish to correct my previous post about making a list less spammable: subscribe = by_owner was the corrrect keyword I wanted. Public subscription requests are forwarded to the listowner for approval. subscribe = closed and public subscription requests are rejected without being forwarded to the list owner. subscribe = open allows automatic subscription processing. send: private and manual subscription control should slow down most spams. But verify all will slow it down a bit more as only the list owner can delete subscribers and I think I would drag my feet on deleting a spammer! As a last rresort, you could make the list moderated but this is labor intensive but sure is a good way to creae a fire break from flames and spam. Brian Lingrd [log in to unmask]