It's "Subscription= Open,Confirm", not just "Confirm", and in my view it's better than "By Owner" because it verifies a two-way mailing path for the subscriber. Naturally there are cases where you <want> to use "By Owner" and the confirmation comes when you ask the user to sign your subscription agreement or list charter or what have you. If you're going to run an Open list where you don't exercise any up-front control over who subscribes, you should definitely use the "Open,Confirm" option. Nathan