Melvin Klassen <[log in to unmask]> found us some useful information about the latest address to suddenly appear on our lists. Here is some of it: > "Cloud 9 Internet" is headquartered at "15 Lake Street, White Plains, NY 10603" > and 'Scott Drassinhower' <[log in to unmask]> is the Technical/Zone/Admin. > contact for this domain, and can be also contacted at 914-682-0626. . . . > Their WWW-site (http://WWW.CLOUD9.NET) claims that they are a full-access > I.S.P. in Westchester County of NY. That WWW-site includes a list of "rules", > which state, in part, "you may not ... harass users, either via email ..." > and "if they ask you to stop, you must". > So, ask 'root@firebug' to stop bothering you. If he/she doesn't, > then their CLOUD9 account can be immediately terminated. I think we are sure that the addresses that appear on our lists are the victims, not the perpetrators, of the trouble. Someone was mad at root@firebug so he (probably not she) forged subscription requests to hundreds of lists so that they appeared to come from [log in to unmask] The flood of mail was certainly enough to be an annoyance, and may even have been enough to crash the firebug system. There has also been some concern that certain lists are being targeted for political reasons. I don't think so. The firebug address ended up on 12 of the KIDLINK lists. I also agree with Eric that "me too" messages reporting where the subscriptions were submitted or not submitted are a waste of time. Good luck to those who are trying to track down the perpetrator. Let us know if there is anything we can do to help. Peace, Dan << Daniel D. Wheeler Internet: [log in to unmask] >> << University of Cincinnati Bitnet: wheeler@ucbeh >>