there was a command I used to use, that you could put in a message, and it would ignore everything up until that, as far as reading listserv commands, anyway.... was it //jobs or //set jobs or something like that. I'm dealing with a lot of bounces and I thought that was easier way to set someone to NOMAIL, once I found their userid. appreciate all the help I've gotten from you people , since I started my mailing list several months ago. - --Geff