Just a couple of things about what Trish said about Elm. If you can't find your Elm directory it's because it's "hidden," you won't see it unless you ask for it specfically or use the -a option when you do an ls. But, if you use Elm, the directory is there, even if you've never seen it. Trish gave some paths to use. You may be able to use her paths as given or you may need to extrapolate. There are many "flavors" of unix and even if your system uses the same one it could be set up differently. If you aren't sure, check with your local people as to the exact procedure for your system. Douglas Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner MEDLAB-L