Folks, I sent this earlier, but to the wrong place, and now I am less sure about its value anyway... Kevin: You said: > So, how can I del someone and still trigger the listserv farewell response? I cannot verify that this would work, but you might try it out and see how it goes: unsub listname for [log in to unmask] I am now less sure about this, because I just send a QUERY LISTNAME FOR [log in to unmask] and I got the reply from LISTSERV as if I were [log in to unmask] The result of my suggested UNSUB FOR may well be that *YOU* get the FAREWELL message and [log in to unmask] never heard anything except that they have been removed from the list (which is what Kevin Sinclair was trying to avoid.... an impersonal cutoff). Cheers Mark Hunnibell Email: [log in to unmask] KIDLINK Gopher/WWW Coordinator http://www.connix.com/~markh/index.html