I run several mailing lists that have a number of co-owners. One way we now communicate is using the // eoj command. This is a listserv command that tells listserv that the message area has no more listserv commands; the rest of the message is ignored. So, you can put comments in the message after the // eoj line for other humans. So if I am teaching a newer list owner how to use a certain command, I can send the command to listserv, copy the other owner, and use the // eoj command in order to put descriptive comments in the same message. I don't have to send a separate message for this. It saves me a little time. I also use it so I don't have to erase my signature, or other text that just happens to be in the message area; this is quicker. I know the // eoj looks cumbersome, and it is; on other command type of languages you sometimes see an equivalent command called 'end' for example. We ought to have that. But // eoj works. For example, here is a message I might send to delete a user, and then explain to my co-owners why one should also use the 'give' command: ----- Message Text ----- del mylist user@domain give mylist farewell to user@domain // eoj Guys, See the 'give' command above after the delete? You have to do that, if you want the user to get your farewell message when you do the delete. Otherwise they don't get it! If they had unsubscribed, *that* is when the farewell is sent out automatically. Yeah, I know it seems inconsistent. Lsoft likes it this way, as they 'presume' that the user won't ask you to delete them unless they really really want to just leave the list; this is flawed reasoning that completely ignores the users that just can't figure this stuff out (users who probably don't know about the *digest* option either - which our farewell message explains to them - and as we know, has brought back many a user). That is how Lsoft wants it, so we have to manually do the 'give' command each time we delete someone. And if the user was so experienced, they could just unsub themselves. So the farewell is important, it seems to me, in this case.