On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Melvin Klassen wrote: > >> Cure the first problem, and the second should go away. > >> > > Right after I sent the help! message to this list, I figured out that > > the loop was caused by a bounced message from a domain *.nl > > I had two subscribers from that domain. So I removed ( I could have set > > the nomail as well) them immediately from both lists. The problem went away, > > however I'm expecting more error messages (those that still haven't > > reached me). > > I could have also used the REVIEW option for the both subscribers and that > > would have solved the problem. > > Hmmm. Since the list is 'SEND=EDITOR', rather than 'SEND=PRIVATE' > or 'SEND=PUBLIC', it's possible that your suggestion would *NOT* have worked. > After all, LISTSERV treated the "bounced" messages as being "authorized" > by the editor. The option REVIEW seems to be more "powerfull". You can set an Editor (wich is defined via the Editor= keyword) with the options REVIEW, and his/her messages with be send to the moderator. I tested this and it worked. > > Any other way to fix this kind of problem? > > No. The user seems to have deliberately initiated the "loop". > If there were multiple "original" postings to ALBANEWS which > were being "bounced" and "looped", then it's possible that LISTSERV's > anti-loop detection could have been tricked into failing to recognize the > loop. Any one else thinks it might have been deliberate?! :( > >p.s. Seems that entire domain in .nl (a particular subdomain) was AAAAffected. > > Some other lists got the same problem. > > While that may be true, I don't think that the '.NL' domain, as such, > was the problem. Perhaps, the problem affected *ALL* users on a specific > computer, or, perhaps, the same user was subscribed to many lists. What I meant here was a particular subdomain within the .nl here is is actually: Received: by pop.stud.let.ruu.nl id AA24238 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Multiple ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ recipients of list ALBANIAN <[log in to unmask]>); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 04:31:09 +0100 The pop.stud.let.ruu.nl domain was the problematic one. sincerely, mentor